IN MY OPINION: Pete Rose and The Astros Part 1
I am so excited to talk about this, I have a very strong opinion on this topic and I know a lot of people do as well.
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Astros:
Where do I even start on how I feel about the Astros? Well as a Seattle Mariners fan I haven't liked them for a few years. But that's just from a division rival standpoint. Honestly, I think what they did was lower than the Blacksox scandal. I believe it to be worse than anything Barry Bonds and other PED users did and 10x worse than what Pete Rose did.
A recap of what their punishment was Houston general manager Jeff Luhnow and manager A.J. Hinch was suspended by MLB for the 2020 season without pay and then fired by the team. The Astros were stripped of four high draft picks and slapped with a $5-million fine. Boston Red Sox manager Alex Cora, a driving force behind the sign-stealing scheme when he was Houston’s bench coach in 2017, and New York Mets manager Carlos Beltran, a participant in the scheme as a veteran Astros outfielder in 2017, also was fired.
So why didn't they get stripped of the 2017 WS Title this is what Manfred said "First, it had never happened in baseball, and I’m a precedent guy,” Manfred said. “Second, I believe the most fundamental obligation was to get the facts, put them out there and let people make their own judgment as to what happened in the 2017 season and playoffs. “Whether or not you put an asterisk next to it or ask for the trophy back, I don’t think it makes that much difference. Once you go down that road of changing what happens on the field, I just don’t know how you decide where to stop.”
Now here is what myself and I know a lot of others think: THIS IS COMPLETE BS! There is something to compare this too, the Blacksox scandal. The next thing is to let people make their own judgment, well you didn't obviously have the backbone to really punish the Astros. STRIP the TITLE! It was not won fairly, it was wrong in every day and literally degraded the sport of baseball and Manfred made the MLB look like a joke with this punishment.
I think that the punishment should have been this: A.J. Hinch, Jeff Luhnow, Alex Cora, Carlos Beltran all who were fired- should be banned from the MLB and put on the ineligible list. The players that were found guilty of participating should have been suspended for 2020 and then not be eligible for the HOF. I think the draft picks and fine were kinda weak. But okay. I think the 5Mil fine should be a yearly fine that affects player payroll. The 2017 WS title, should be removed from the Astros much like how Barry Bonds's name is removed from the HR king spot.
The way the Astros responded was also ridiculous. They basically said they didn't do anything wrong, they didn't admit to any fault. They still think they deserve the WS title. They were unapologetic in their press conferences. This all tells me, they are guilty and know they got off easy and it doesn't really matter what they say. A lack of remorse from the team is again embarrassing for the MLB. Manfred is a disgrace to the MLB Commissioner title for this terrible punishment and the MLB takes a big hit in terms of fan support because of him.
Overall, just writing and talking about all this with friends and fellow baseball fans a lot of people are outraged because of the punishment Pete Rose has dealt with. But I want to also throw Barry Bonds and Curt Schilling into this as well just to illustrate how inconsistent punishments are in the MLB.
Stay involved for Part 2.
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Astros:
Where do I even start on how I feel about the Astros? Well as a Seattle Mariners fan I haven't liked them for a few years. But that's just from a division rival standpoint. Honestly, I think what they did was lower than the Blacksox scandal. I believe it to be worse than anything Barry Bonds and other PED users did and 10x worse than what Pete Rose did.
A recap of what their punishment was Houston general manager Jeff Luhnow and manager A.J. Hinch was suspended by MLB for the 2020 season without pay and then fired by the team. The Astros were stripped of four high draft picks and slapped with a $5-million fine. Boston Red Sox manager Alex Cora, a driving force behind the sign-stealing scheme when he was Houston’s bench coach in 2017, and New York Mets manager Carlos Beltran, a participant in the scheme as a veteran Astros outfielder in 2017, also was fired.
So why didn't they get stripped of the 2017 WS Title this is what Manfred said "First, it had never happened in baseball, and I’m a precedent guy,” Manfred said. “Second, I believe the most fundamental obligation was to get the facts, put them out there and let people make their own judgment as to what happened in the 2017 season and playoffs. “Whether or not you put an asterisk next to it or ask for the trophy back, I don’t think it makes that much difference. Once you go down that road of changing what happens on the field, I just don’t know how you decide where to stop.”
Now here is what myself and I know a lot of others think: THIS IS COMPLETE BS! There is something to compare this too, the Blacksox scandal. The next thing is to let people make their own judgment, well you didn't obviously have the backbone to really punish the Astros. STRIP the TITLE! It was not won fairly, it was wrong in every day and literally degraded the sport of baseball and Manfred made the MLB look like a joke with this punishment.
I think that the punishment should have been this: A.J. Hinch, Jeff Luhnow, Alex Cora, Carlos Beltran all who were fired- should be banned from the MLB and put on the ineligible list. The players that were found guilty of participating should have been suspended for 2020 and then not be eligible for the HOF. I think the draft picks and fine were kinda weak. But okay. I think the 5Mil fine should be a yearly fine that affects player payroll. The 2017 WS title, should be removed from the Astros much like how Barry Bonds's name is removed from the HR king spot.
The way the Astros responded was also ridiculous. They basically said they didn't do anything wrong, they didn't admit to any fault. They still think they deserve the WS title. They were unapologetic in their press conferences. This all tells me, they are guilty and know they got off easy and it doesn't really matter what they say. A lack of remorse from the team is again embarrassing for the MLB. Manfred is a disgrace to the MLB Commissioner title for this terrible punishment and the MLB takes a big hit in terms of fan support because of him.
Overall, just writing and talking about all this with friends and fellow baseball fans a lot of people are outraged because of the punishment Pete Rose has dealt with. But I want to also throw Barry Bonds and Curt Schilling into this as well just to illustrate how inconsistent punishments are in the MLB.
Stay involved for Part 2.
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